Any one interested to attend please contact us on our by e-mail/phone so that we can provide details to Western Sydney Pubic transport users Group - it will be a great opportunity to meet other regions within Western Sydney - There are groups fight for one bus services groups that have fought before and groups that are starting for returned bus services.
Our group is a a group that is linked to the Western Sydney Public Transport users Group - they have supported us from the word go! So in turn we need to support them! I believe it is an enjoyable day!
Date is Saturday August 10 2010 - 10am-4pm
Showing posts with label SOBS Western Sydney 2030. Show all posts
Showing posts with label SOBS Western Sydney 2030. Show all posts
Thursday, June 17, 2010
Wednesday, June 9, 2010
WESTERN SYDNEY 2030 - More Transport Feedback3
Here's an acticle from Western Sydney 2030 dated 9/6/10 from 'rd'
Where are the 'planners' who actually understand how a city works? Those who understand why we need frequent public transport? Those who understand how and why the linkages we need to work. It seems that a Shalvey student, Blake, featured in a local newspaper has good ideas. Have these been put forward here?
Choice is the word - let those who want to cycle, cycle, drive, drive, walk , walk or catch a bus, catch a bus. But there needs to be choices of modes available to where we want to go. And when it is Bus/Light Rail/Train, it needs to be more frequent, as it is competing with the car in attractiveness as a choice.
My comments: Interest for Blake is being has been rising and there is many reasons the community may use buses over other modes of transport s from perosnal to no other choice - whatver the reason we need to support our community for what they want - we may not make everyone happy but we will make the majority of the community happy!
Where are the 'planners' who actually understand how a city works? Those who understand why we need frequent public transport? Those who understand how and why the linkages we need to work. It seems that a Shalvey student, Blake, featured in a local newspaper has good ideas. Have these been put forward here?
Choice is the word - let those who want to cycle, cycle, drive, drive, walk , walk or catch a bus, catch a bus. But there needs to be choices of modes available to where we want to go. And when it is Bus/Light Rail/Train, it needs to be more frequent, as it is competing with the car in attractiveness as a choice.
My comments: Interest for Blake is being has been rising and there is many reasons the community may use buses over other modes of transport s from perosnal to no other choice - whatver the reason we need to support our community for what they want - we may not make everyone happy but we will make the majority of the community happy!
Wednesday, May 19, 2010
WESTERN SYDNEY 2030 - More Transport Feedback2
Matt, 19/5/2010
There are more pressing areas we need to save for food - like the Hawkesbury River flats, such as around Pitttown, which is threatened with development - and that is prime food growing land with wonderful soils. Badgery's Creek is ok, but we need to prioritise the fights for foodland in Sydney.Your enthusiasm for Peak Oil understanding is admirable, but Badgery's Creek makes so much sense for
Western Sydney from so many perspectives, particularly as the only activity that can generate the needed amount of jobs for the area in the long term. NSW Govt say that most of the jobs in the future will need to be generated in Western Sydney. This is the one project that can give this goal the greatest boost.
Unknown 19/5/2010
Yes,
We need to mobilise ALL of Sydney to start marching for a better city full stop. The planning in this city is woeful. There are Third World Cities with more decisive and visionary planning than Sydney.All the NSW Government does is prop up the Development Industry.
The Department of Planning should be called the Department for Loving and Caring for Developers.March everyone, like in the '60s - let's shout so loud that those hopeless non-representatives in Macquarie Street hear us, and we get useful, frequent reliable transport and better planning. Let's March until this happens
Holly S says: 19/5/2010,
Superb idea... I'll join you!I will march. I will march every day until something changes... it's a disgrace. WAR AGAINST CARS!
There are more pressing areas we need to save for food - like the Hawkesbury River flats, such as around Pitttown, which is threatened with development - and that is prime food growing land with wonderful soils. Badgery's Creek is ok, but we need to prioritise the fights for foodland in Sydney.Your enthusiasm for Peak Oil understanding is admirable, but Badgery's Creek makes so much sense for
Western Sydney from so many perspectives, particularly as the only activity that can generate the needed amount of jobs for the area in the long term. NSW Govt say that most of the jobs in the future will need to be generated in Western Sydney. This is the one project that can give this goal the greatest boost.
Unknown 19/5/2010
Yes,
We need to mobilise ALL of Sydney to start marching for a better city full stop. The planning in this city is woeful. There are Third World Cities with more decisive and visionary planning than Sydney.All the NSW Government does is prop up the Development Industry.
The Department of Planning should be called the Department for Loving and Caring for Developers.March everyone, like in the '60s - let's shout so loud that those hopeless non-representatives in Macquarie Street hear us, and we get useful, frequent reliable transport and better planning. Let's March until this happens
Holly S says: 19/5/2010,
Superb idea... I'll join you!I will march. I will march every day until something changes... it's a disgrace. WAR AGAINST CARS!
Tuesday, May 18, 2010
More Feedback From Western Sydney 2030 - Keep on coming in!
Andy F says:
Would you people from this site support a march ?
I would like to drum up 1000 people to do a monthly march `WAR AGAINST CARS` - MORE BUSES MORE OFTEN , MORE RAIL MORE OFTEN - WAR AGAINST CARS - March on a monthly Saturday morning , pick a location, hand out pamphlets, big banners , finish with all 1000 people having a pint at a pub - having walked ! :)
Would you people from this site support a march ?
I would like to drum up 1000 people to do a monthly march `WAR AGAINST CARS` - MORE BUSES MORE OFTEN , MORE RAIL MORE OFTEN - WAR AGAINST CARS - March on a monthly Saturday morning , pick a location, hand out pamphlets, big banners , finish with all 1000 people having a pint at a pub - having walked ! :)
More Feedback From Western Sydney 2030
Hi All,
I live in London but am from the Northern Beaches of Sydney.
I take a keen interest in the plight of NSW transport (or lack of it). A lot of my mates on the beaches still complain bitterly about the transport problem.We are motivated to do something about it.
We have been mulling the idea of some kind of protest march in the CBD. To tell the politicians on both sides that enough is enough. Can I canvas your opinions please:
1.) Is it a good idea (Y/N)
2.) Are protest marches effective?.
3.) Are there better ways to get the message across?
4.) How do u go about organising a march?
5.) Would u turn up?.
Feel free to reply on the board for all to see.It might be just a pipe dream...but some of the greatest movements started with a single idea.
Kind Regards,
TS
I live in London but am from the Northern Beaches of Sydney.
I take a keen interest in the plight of NSW transport (or lack of it). A lot of my mates on the beaches still complain bitterly about the transport problem.We are motivated to do something about it.
We have been mulling the idea of some kind of protest march in the CBD. To tell the politicians on both sides that enough is enough. Can I canvas your opinions please:
1.) Is it a good idea (Y/N)
2.) Are protest marches effective?.
3.) Are there better ways to get the message across?
4.) How do u go about organising a march?
5.) Would u turn up?.
Feel free to reply on the board for all to see.It might be just a pipe dream...but some of the greatest movements started with a single idea.
Kind Regards,
TS
Tuesday, May 11, 2010
WESTERN SYDNEY 2030 - More Transport Feedback
Kerri B says:
Firstly, I can't click on the links 'Metropolitan Transport Plan' or 'Tell us what you think'.
I would love to see Government run Bus T-Ways along the Great Western Hwy from Parramatta to Penrith and vice-verca. We need an alternative method other than the train. At Minchinbury, you can only get to Mt Druitt station by bus. A lot of people drive instead, as it is more direct than relying on trains. If you had parking stations hubs along the Great Western Hwy, I guarantee you will bring people to use this public transport. There are a lot of people who travel to Parramatta and Penrith for work, school, university, Tafe, after school activities etc. This is needed now, not in 2030.
Firstly, I can't click on the links 'Metropolitan Transport Plan' or 'Tell us what you think'.
I would love to see Government run Bus T-Ways along the Great Western Hwy from Parramatta to Penrith and vice-verca. We need an alternative method other than the train. At Minchinbury, you can only get to Mt Druitt station by bus. A lot of people drive instead, as it is more direct than relying on trains. If you had parking stations hubs along the Great Western Hwy, I guarantee you will bring people to use this public transport. There are a lot of people who travel to Parramatta and Penrith for work, school, university, Tafe, after school activities etc. This is needed now, not in 2030.
Monday, May 10, 2010
WESTERN SYDNEY 2030 - transport feedback
John Svoboda -Chairp 2010-04-09 11:21
I personaluy believe if you can leave your car at home , reducing carbon emmissions, you can travel on cheaper transport that if ten time the amount of people travel more on public trasnport; buses and/or trains then more efficient servicves can be provided thus further increasing employment within the transport industry.
Hayley Ballis 2010-05-06 22:10
The area of Western Sydney needs vast improvements in order to be more sustainable for the residents, in particular the buses need to be more frequent for the residents without transport, the 784 and the 786 bus comes every half an hour but it stops at 10:30pm terminating at the shops how else are the residents supposed to come home, the buses that go to regions without a train system run less frequently around those regions shouldn't there be more buses to accommodate those needs for people without a car, what about the trains in the western line, one train to lithgow with only 4 carriages that is ridiculous while all the other trains into the city have about 8, more frequent trains to lithgow and there wouldn't be a clog up with everyone wanting to get the train at 4:00pm each day, the proposal lies with the government, but with all due respect the public transport system is a joke, look at other countries you'll find they probably have more success than us, shame on you Kevin Rudd.
Sustainable Urbansim 2010-05-10 10:37
Hayley,There are villages outside of Zurich, with lower population levels than much of western Sydney, yet they have much more frequent services, and consequently, much higher patronage - because the services also go where people need them to go to.Approx only 38% of all journeys are journey to work, and the vast majority of frequent bus services are actually for journey to work, with all other journeys poorly catered for.There are many many cities that we can learn from for good transport.
David Wilson 2010-05-07 06:25
The four main transport policy options for Western Sydney need to be debated and agreed:- 1)Stop designing car dependent suburbs.2)Set up a dedicated Development Agency for Western Sydney.3)Develop a robust transport funding framework to implement a sustainable transport plan.4)Move into a new era of designing a carbon neutral resilient city that is self sufficient with public transport and walking and cycling networks and reduced reliance on road transport and congestion costs.
Sustainable Urbansim 2010-05-10 10:32
David,It is not quite as simple as you make it out to be.
1. Our suburbs need be designed with an understanding of how connections are made across various modes of transport; and how each of those work to create local, regional and city-wide connections.
2. Dev. Agency? For what purpose? Wholistic, well founded planning with clear goals, and whole of community involvement from the regional scale to local works best - co-operation between all groups for a positive outcome.
3. Agreed.
4. Do we actually know what these high and mighty terms mean? Carbon Neutral? in what way/s? resilient city? for who and what? self sufficient - in almost all of history no settlement has been fully self-sufficient in everything ...
I personaluy believe if you can leave your car at home , reducing carbon emmissions, you can travel on cheaper transport that if ten time the amount of people travel more on public trasnport; buses and/or trains then more efficient servicves can be provided thus further increasing employment within the transport industry.
Hayley Ballis 2010-05-06 22:10
The area of Western Sydney needs vast improvements in order to be more sustainable for the residents, in particular the buses need to be more frequent for the residents without transport, the 784 and the 786 bus comes every half an hour but it stops at 10:30pm terminating at the shops how else are the residents supposed to come home, the buses that go to regions without a train system run less frequently around those regions shouldn't there be more buses to accommodate those needs for people without a car, what about the trains in the western line, one train to lithgow with only 4 carriages that is ridiculous while all the other trains into the city have about 8, more frequent trains to lithgow and there wouldn't be a clog up with everyone wanting to get the train at 4:00pm each day, the proposal lies with the government, but with all due respect the public transport system is a joke, look at other countries you'll find they probably have more success than us, shame on you Kevin Rudd.
Sustainable Urbansim 2010-05-10 10:37
Hayley,There are villages outside of Zurich, with lower population levels than much of western Sydney, yet they have much more frequent services, and consequently, much higher patronage - because the services also go where people need them to go to.Approx only 38% of all journeys are journey to work, and the vast majority of frequent bus services are actually for journey to work, with all other journeys poorly catered for.There are many many cities that we can learn from for good transport.
David Wilson 2010-05-07 06:25
The four main transport policy options for Western Sydney need to be debated and agreed:- 1)Stop designing car dependent suburbs.2)Set up a dedicated Development Agency for Western Sydney.3)Develop a robust transport funding framework to implement a sustainable transport plan.4)Move into a new era of designing a carbon neutral resilient city that is self sufficient with public transport and walking and cycling networks and reduced reliance on road transport and congestion costs.
Sustainable Urbansim 2010-05-10 10:32
David,It is not quite as simple as you make it out to be.
1. Our suburbs need be designed with an understanding of how connections are made across various modes of transport; and how each of those work to create local, regional and city-wide connections.
2. Dev. Agency? For what purpose? Wholistic, well founded planning with clear goals, and whole of community involvement from the regional scale to local works best - co-operation between all groups for a positive outcome.
3. Agreed.
4. Do we actually know what these high and mighty terms mean? Carbon Neutral? in what way/s? resilient city? for who and what? self sufficient - in almost all of history no settlement has been fully self-sufficient in everything ...
Friday, April 9, 2010
Comments from Western Sydney 2030
These are comments sent to us from 'Western Syndey 2030' regarding bus transport, enjoy it:
John Svoboda -Chairp 2010-03-27 03:54
As Chairperson of a group trying to return bus services removed /deleted from within Mount Druitt - I think the government has gone backward - the plan should be now to increase bus servicesn not wait for a long time for this to happen - The community needs proper tranmsport and we need to promote more car off the road get community membersi nto cheaper public/private transport - this also brings make the air less polutant as well - less fumes in the air!
This is one response:
Amy Williams 2010-04-01 03:29
Thank you to WSROC for providing this opportunity!Following on from John’s earlier post- It is essential that we treat all levels of our transport system equally: Direct services along strategic corridors; Feeder services along primary routes feeding into corridors; Local secondary routes servicing local centres; Active transport; Community Transport (Home and Community Care)There appears to be an increasing focus on express direct services along strategic corridors. Whilst this is ESSENTIAL for a efficient mass transit system that is a viable alternative to the car, the increasing allocation of resources to direct links appears to be creating a ‘gap’ in our transport network.People who are unable to drive, who do not have access to a car, who are unable to walk or cycle to direct bus route stops but who are ineligible for HACC Transport services are becoming isolated from the public transport system. Let us not forget the importance of local transport options!
This is another response:
J1 2010-04-09 00:20
Transport is critical for all of the other areas to succeed. There's no point having great learning centres, art, culture, sporting activities etc if noone can get there. We need to be less reliant on cars and provide other avenues for people, particularly young people to move about the region.Bring on the bike paths, bring on reliable bus services and bring on more action and less talking about it
John Svoboda -Chairp 2010-03-27 03:54
As Chairperson of a group trying to return bus services removed /deleted from within Mount Druitt - I think the government has gone backward - the plan should be now to increase bus servicesn not wait for a long time for this to happen - The community needs proper tranmsport and we need to promote more car off the road get community membersi nto cheaper public/private transport - this also brings make the air less polutant as well - less fumes in the air!
This is one response:
Amy Williams 2010-04-01 03:29
Thank you to WSROC for providing this opportunity!Following on from John’s earlier post- It is essential that we treat all levels of our transport system equally: Direct services along strategic corridors; Feeder services along primary routes feeding into corridors; Local secondary routes servicing local centres; Active transport; Community Transport (Home and Community Care)There appears to be an increasing focus on express direct services along strategic corridors. Whilst this is ESSENTIAL for a efficient mass transit system that is a viable alternative to the car, the increasing allocation of resources to direct links appears to be creating a ‘gap’ in our transport network.People who are unable to drive, who do not have access to a car, who are unable to walk or cycle to direct bus route stops but who are ineligible for HACC Transport services are becoming isolated from the public transport system. Let us not forget the importance of local transport options!
This is another response:
J1 2010-04-09 00:20
Transport is critical for all of the other areas to succeed. There's no point having great learning centres, art, culture, sporting activities etc if noone can get there. We need to be less reliant on cars and provide other avenues for people, particularly young people to move about the region.Bring on the bike paths, bring on reliable bus services and bring on more action and less talking about it
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